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Scott Paul ~ Restoring Wood & Decks Since 1993
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Hi. Need stain help

Northern Michigan with in 29 feet from a lake

partial sun 

cedar deck 

some mold/mildew 

The main issue is peeling with previous stains. I have refinished the deck two times, stripped, sanded and brightened before applying Cabot semi transparent stain. I am in the process of stripping this stain off (some areas are not peeling) I'm looking for a stain that will not peel. 

 

Thank you. 

   

Use the TWP 100 series but you will have to remove all of the Cabot.


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Hello, I am hoping someone on here can help.  I have a set of unfinished cedar adirondack chairs I'd like to stain.  What product is recommended?  I've used TWP 100 series with great results on my deck, but I'm not sure this would be appropriate.  I  live in Spokane, WA where we get all four seasons.  The chairs would be outside from spring through fall, then stored inside during winter.  Do they need to be sealed as well after staining?  Any tips or guidance on staining and which stain would work best is much appreciated.  Thanks!


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You can use the TWP 100 for the chairs. You cannot apply a sealer over a deck stain.


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Hello.  I'm lost and hoping for advice. I'm installing a large redwood fence.  I want to keep the beauty of the redwood, not cover it with colored stain.  I live in the desert so Sun and the wind are an issue, not so much with mold or mildew.  Was really hoping for a product recommendation.  And I read on this website that waiting to stain is best.  If we wait, the fence will go through the winter untreated, do you think that's okay?


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Is the fence wood smooth or rough sawn cut? That will help determine when to stain and which brands.


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It's smooth.


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Wait until Spring. Clean and brighten the wood for prep first. Stain with Armstrong Clark wood stains.


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Thanks so much.  Your website is great and informative.  I appreciate your help!


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My contractor used a pressure washer on my deck and used Clorox, I big no no, I know!

He then stained the deck using PPG Semi Transparent oil based stain.  At first the deck looked great, but then white splotchy areas came thru.  I tried adding a 2nd coat, to a small area (see picture, top right hand corner, you can see the darker stain (pic 284).  I did this about 4 days ago and so far the white areas are not bleeding through.  Question is, should I clean the deck again and then use a brightener product and then apply a second coat of the stain?  


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The white spots look to be on top of the stain and nothing to do with the prep or the stain. Could be mineral deposits from rain. Do they wipe off with water.

We would not recoat. Too much stain and it could fail prematurely.


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1. Central Illinois

2. East and South exposure AM sun/PM shade from house

3. Pressure treated pine

4. No mold/ mildew

5.  10 year old deck previously stained (date ?) with Cabot translucent oil stain mfg date 2010 by previous owner but not in last three years. Newer section 15 mos old never stained. Entire deck has been stripped, power washed and washed with brightener/neutralizer. Is sanding necessary for maximum penetration and best result? One paint store told us sanding with Festool orbital sander would yield best result but deck is 557 sq ft and wonder if time invested in sanding will be worth it.  We are considering TWP 1500 as we can get locally in Rust Oak or Dark Oak. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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Sanding actually reduces the ability for the stain to soak in. Only sand if absolutely needed.


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I am a first-time home owner who is trying to get the deck stained. The deck has original stain or some coat that looks semi-transparent or transparent- which I am trying to remove. I plan to use Behr all weather waterproofing and sealing semi-transparent stain- already bought it. To prep surface, this is what I have done so far.

  • Since I was not sure if the deck had any prior stain or some some sort of sealer- I used Behr Premium All in one wood cleaner No. 63 on half of the deck. After a lot of scrubbing and hosing-down I did not think, everything came off.
  • So, I used the same product on rest of the deck but this time I used pressure washer and felt that most of the old stain came off. So I went back to the first half and used pressure wash there as well.
  • The railings I have not been able to pressure wash well and the main wrap around planks that go on top of the railing- have pressure wash marks all over.
  • The vertical railings have been hard to pressure wash

Need advice as to how I have been doing. What to do with those marks left behind by pressure washer- whether semi-transparent stain will hide them. Do I need some more scrubbing, Any other chemicals to do a better job? I am trying to avoid further use of pressure washer. 

Appreciate the help.

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You need to use a decl stain stripper and then pressure wash again. Once removed, brighten the wood. 

As for the Behr stain, return it. Has very poor reviews from consumers: Behr Premium Wood Stain

Try one of these brands: The 5 Best Deck Stain Ratings


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Thank you. By the pictures, does it look like a bad job?

Does the wood get damaged with 2 pressure washes? There is conflicting information on the forum- some say, don't pressure wash, some say do. 

Also, can you tell,, by the looks, what kind of wood it is? I am quite novice at this since this being my first home. Also am not that handy. But I am determined to do this on my own- if using stripper and then power washing it will help clean it, then I will do it. Unfortunately, I cannot return the Behr stain since it is mixed- $ will be wasted unless you think it is work wasting about $70 for the long term gain. 

What kind of stripper and brightener is recommended?

Thank you again. 


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